Tuesday, July 30, 2013
Feeding Update
I looked in all four hives today in the top feeders, and they were all
plumb full of bees wall-to-wall. I guess that's what they needed. I
hope it helps them to draw out more comb and have more brood. I feel
like I made the right choice with the feeders. I'll keep you updated.
Monday, July 29, 2013
A Command Decision
Well, I went into the hives briefly today. It's odd how I never seem to find what I think I'll find when I go in to the hives.
I did have bare-frame deeps over the brood deep, and below the partially filled with honey and comb supers. Today there are 1.5 to 3 frames with brood in each middle deep. The supers still had comb and some honey. All boxes had a lot of bees.
So after thinking a little bit about the conditions of the hives, and the time of year (and mumbling a lot), I made the command decision to go ahead and put the feeders on each hive. I won't get any honey this year, but hopefully they'll finish building comb and have plenty of stores for the winter.
I did have bare-frame deeps over the brood deep, and below the partially filled with honey and comb supers. Today there are 1.5 to 3 frames with brood in each middle deep. The supers still had comb and some honey. All boxes had a lot of bees.
So after thinking a little bit about the conditions of the hives, and the time of year (and mumbling a lot), I made the command decision to go ahead and put the feeders on each hive. I won't get any honey this year, but hopefully they'll finish building comb and have plenty of stores for the winter.
Saturday, July 27, 2013
Experiment That Didn't Go Too Well
My plan this year with two packages and two nucs was to try to get two
deeps on each hive filled with comb and brood, and have strong hives
going into winter.
I had about twenty five medium frames drawn containing half-capped honey in the freezer from last year. My thought was that after the bottom deeps were full, I'd take the feeders off, put another deep with bare frames on, then put the medium supers with the frames evenly divided between the four hives. My thinking was that the bees would travel up to the frames with honey, and maybe decide to draw comb on the middle deep while they were traveling.
I looked in the hives yesterday to make sure there weren't any wax moths, SHB, etc., and to see if they'd drawn out the middle deep boxes. Well, there was hardly any comb drawn on the middle deeps, and the honey was mostly gone from the top mediums. (Note 1: I use plastic frames, but they drew out the ones in the bottom deeps great. Note 2: Three hives are 8-frame and one is 10-frame, but they all look the same inside.)
I don't know why they didn't build out the comb on the middle deeps. It's been awfully rainy and cool this summer thus far. Maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe I should have kept feeding them all summer (although there was some flow this year, and I thought that would suffice).
So now I'm thinking that it's getting late in the year, and that I'd better take the top supers off, and start feeding 1:1 syrup so that they might draw out some comb. I also got the suggestion to move a couple of frames of brood up into the upper deep to encourage activity in that level. If that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to remove the middle layer deeps and put the medium supers with the drawn comb on top of the bottom deeps and see if they'll fill that with honey for the winter.
Hopefully Monday I can mix up some syrup and get the feeders on. Hopefully, the bees will get the hint.
Updates will be provided when/if they happen!
I had about twenty five medium frames drawn containing half-capped honey in the freezer from last year. My thought was that after the bottom deeps were full, I'd take the feeders off, put another deep with bare frames on, then put the medium supers with the frames evenly divided between the four hives. My thinking was that the bees would travel up to the frames with honey, and maybe decide to draw comb on the middle deep while they were traveling.
I looked in the hives yesterday to make sure there weren't any wax moths, SHB, etc., and to see if they'd drawn out the middle deep boxes. Well, there was hardly any comb drawn on the middle deeps, and the honey was mostly gone from the top mediums. (Note 1: I use plastic frames, but they drew out the ones in the bottom deeps great. Note 2: Three hives are 8-frame and one is 10-frame, but they all look the same inside.)
I don't know why they didn't build out the comb on the middle deeps. It's been awfully rainy and cool this summer thus far. Maybe that has something to do with it. Maybe I should have kept feeding them all summer (although there was some flow this year, and I thought that would suffice).
So now I'm thinking that it's getting late in the year, and that I'd better take the top supers off, and start feeding 1:1 syrup so that they might draw out some comb. I also got the suggestion to move a couple of frames of brood up into the upper deep to encourage activity in that level. If that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to remove the middle layer deeps and put the medium supers with the drawn comb on top of the bottom deeps and see if they'll fill that with honey for the winter.
Hopefully Monday I can mix up some syrup and get the feeders on. Hopefully, the bees will get the hint.
Updates will be provided when/if they happen!
Monday, July 8, 2013
The Swarm is Gone
Friday the swarm looked lively and was bringing in pollen. Today,
there's not a bee alive. I had a jar of syrup on top of the inner cover
with a box around it, but maybe all this rain and them not being able
to get out, plus they were a small swarm had something to do with it.
There's some dead bees on top of the inner cover. I didn't take the
time to look in the frames. I'll go into it tomorrow morning. I hate
it for the bees. But I've learned some lessons and hopefully the next
swarm will fare better.
Tuesday, July 2, 2013
Dealing With the Swarm on Tuesday
Well, I went out there this morning and the swarm is still on the limb.
I don't know if they stayed because it got dark before they got into
the hive, or maybe they're still not happy with how I cleaned out the
box. If they're not in the hive in a few hours, I guess I'll have to
get into my bee suit and put them in the box. It just doesn't seem like
they can stay that way very long. They've been there around 24 hours
now through 3 thundershowers. Where they're at is where the swarm trap
was before I put them in the hive the first time.
Update 1: So they're still on the limb at 1:00 pm EDT. I guess I'm going to have to suit up and put them in the box. I would have thought the LGO cotton ball would have lured them back into the hive, plus the fact that I moved it to about 3 feet from the limb they're on. Silly bees. I don't know what they're thinking. I hope the queen is ok.
Update 2: I put the hive box under the swarm, removed four frames, and, like the good hands people, I gently scooped them into the box. It's a small swarm (about a pound)(but many may have been out scouting or foraging). I put an entrance feeder full of syrup on top of the frames and put an empty super around that. Hopefully, that will be encouraging and welcoming enough for them to say this time. If I go out there this evening and they're back to hanging on the limb, I'll just give up.
I have learned a lot from this experience. I don't think I'll use the flower pot-type swarm trap any more. I'll just set a hive box with frames out so they'll get started right. Hopefully next year I'll have some drawn comb frames that I can put in the swarm trap to maybe make it more attractive. And I don't think I'll do any cutouts. That comb is a sticky gooey mashy mess. And, although I kind of knew it, now I really know that bees will do what they want to do.
I was really surprised the swarm hung under that limb through three thundershowers. They must be tough bees.
But, so far they're staying in the box. I hope it goes better this time around.
Here's the hive right under the limb where the bees were hanging:
Update 1: So they're still on the limb at 1:00 pm EDT. I guess I'm going to have to suit up and put them in the box. I would have thought the LGO cotton ball would have lured them back into the hive, plus the fact that I moved it to about 3 feet from the limb they're on. Silly bees. I don't know what they're thinking. I hope the queen is ok.
Update 2: I put the hive box under the swarm, removed four frames, and, like the good hands people, I gently scooped them into the box. It's a small swarm (about a pound)(but many may have been out scouting or foraging). I put an entrance feeder full of syrup on top of the frames and put an empty super around that. Hopefully, that will be encouraging and welcoming enough for them to say this time. If I go out there this evening and they're back to hanging on the limb, I'll just give up.
I have learned a lot from this experience. I don't think I'll use the flower pot-type swarm trap any more. I'll just set a hive box with frames out so they'll get started right. Hopefully next year I'll have some drawn comb frames that I can put in the swarm trap to maybe make it more attractive. And I don't think I'll do any cutouts. That comb is a sticky gooey mashy mess. And, although I kind of knew it, now I really know that bees will do what they want to do.
I was really surprised the swarm hung under that limb through three thundershowers. They must be tough bees.
But, so far they're staying in the box. I hope it goes better this time around.
Here's the hive right under the limb where the bees were hanging:
Monday, July 1, 2013
I May Have Dodged A Bullet Today
My Dad called a little while ago and said he thought the queen in the
swarm I hived recently must not be doing very well. He said there was a
swarm on a tree limb this morning close to the hive where I put the
swarm. I told him that it had rained pretty hard a little while ago and
it's doubtful they would still be there. But I went out and looked and
they were still there. I was only going to pop the top and see if I
could see a reason for them swarming, but there were a few bees on top
of the inner cover around the entrance feeder I had there, so nothing
unusual. So, since I had long gloves on, I took the feeder out and
lifted the inner cover.
Ugh. Wax moths!
Little worms everywhere. The comb I had tried to move from the swarm trap to empty frames in the hive
had all kind of fell/melted into the bottom of the hive and there were
hundreds (if not thousands) of little worms all in it. I guess the
reason they had swarmed was they really were absconding. Luckily, they
were only about 10 feet from the hive on a limb. So I took the hive box
apart and cleaned out all of the frames, and scraped the comb/worms off
of the bottom board. I set the comb and the frames out in the sun
(from what I have read, wax moths and larvae are kind of like vampires:
They really don't like the sun). I got some new frames and put them in
the deep box and added a cottonball with some lemongrass oil on it, put
the inner cover on and put the feeder on top and put the lid on. Me
and Dad moved the hive box next to the limb so the swarm wouldn't have
far to go and maybe they would smell the lemongrass oil and move back
in. I tried to clean it up as well as I could. I told Dad either they
will go back in or else they won't.
Here's the hive box and where the swarm was when I got out there to it:

And here's a close up of the swarm:

I did hear a very high pitched humming sound coming from inside the hive box after I had it reassembled. I don't know if it was a scout bee signaling the other bees. My initial thought was that it might have been a queen piping. It was such a unique sound, very different from any buzzing noise I had ever heard. And it was loud, too! Just one more thing for me to wonder about.
Anyway, I'm keeping my fingers crossed they will stay.
Ugh. Wax moths!
Here's the hive box and where the swarm was when I got out there to it:

And here's a close up of the swarm:

I did hear a very high pitched humming sound coming from inside the hive box after I had it reassembled. I don't know if it was a scout bee signaling the other bees. My initial thought was that it might have been a queen piping. It was such a unique sound, very different from any buzzing noise I had ever heard. And it was loud, too! Just one more thing for me to wonder about.

Anyway, I'm keeping my fingers crossed they will stay.
Wednesday, June 26, 2013
I Hived A Swarm Today
What a time Dad and I had today! There's been a swarm living in the swarm trap for over a month now, but I haven't been able to do anything with it until now. I got an 8-frame hive assembly ready
to put the swarm from the swarm trap in. The swarm trap is one of those
flowerpot looking things from WT Kelley.
I got some empty wooden frames and some fishing line that I wrapped around them. Got the smoker and tool box and stuff up to the trap. Set the hive on a table a few feed away from the trap. Took the trap down and had to really pry with a hive tool to get the top and bottom separated. There was 5 big combs hanging down from the top. I shook the bees into the hive box and sat the top down on the ground with the combs sticking up. I took the hive tool and pried the combs off the top. I laid them down on the frames in the box until I had them all off of the top. Then I tried to put them into the empty frames with the fishing line. I learned I can't tie knots in fishing line while sweating profusely and wearing gloves! Then a thunderstorm came over and it rained hard for a few minutes. It cooled us off, but I don't think the bees liked it much. When I tried to put the comb in the frame, it just bent and broke and was a mushy mess. I really don't know how the big time bee folks do it. There must be a secret to it. But I stuck them in there as best as I could and I hope the bees straighten it out. I am thinking that they'll adjust the comb to allow for bee space, and hopefully connect it to the top. I have four empty frames for the comb in the center, and four regular frames (two on each side) on the outsides. I tried to get as many bees as I could into the hive. I hope I got the queen in there. I sat the top and bottom right under the table with the hive on it, so hopefully they'll realize that they live in a new house now. I'll probably give them a few days to adjust, then I plan on moving the hive a couple of feet every day until I get them where I want them to be, down with the other bees. I'm sorry I didn't get any pictures. Between the sweat and the rain and the bees and the ticks and the gooey comb, I pretty well had my hands full.
The moral to the story is this: I'll probably not use a flowerpot swarm trap again. I'll just get me a hive assembly and put some frames with old drawn comb in there.
But at least now I can say that I've tried it.
I got some empty wooden frames and some fishing line that I wrapped around them. Got the smoker and tool box and stuff up to the trap. Set the hive on a table a few feed away from the trap. Took the trap down and had to really pry with a hive tool to get the top and bottom separated. There was 5 big combs hanging down from the top. I shook the bees into the hive box and sat the top down on the ground with the combs sticking up. I took the hive tool and pried the combs off the top. I laid them down on the frames in the box until I had them all off of the top. Then I tried to put them into the empty frames with the fishing line. I learned I can't tie knots in fishing line while sweating profusely and wearing gloves! Then a thunderstorm came over and it rained hard for a few minutes. It cooled us off, but I don't think the bees liked it much. When I tried to put the comb in the frame, it just bent and broke and was a mushy mess. I really don't know how the big time bee folks do it. There must be a secret to it. But I stuck them in there as best as I could and I hope the bees straighten it out. I am thinking that they'll adjust the comb to allow for bee space, and hopefully connect it to the top. I have four empty frames for the comb in the center, and four regular frames (two on each side) on the outsides. I tried to get as many bees as I could into the hive. I hope I got the queen in there. I sat the top and bottom right under the table with the hive on it, so hopefully they'll realize that they live in a new house now. I'll probably give them a few days to adjust, then I plan on moving the hive a couple of feet every day until I get them where I want them to be, down with the other bees. I'm sorry I didn't get any pictures. Between the sweat and the rain and the bees and the ticks and the gooey comb, I pretty well had my hands full.
The moral to the story is this: I'll probably not use a flowerpot swarm trap again. I'll just get me a hive assembly and put some frames with old drawn comb in there.
But at least now I can say that I've tried it.
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